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I keep seeing this floating around Facebook, coupled with the recommendation that we get to work on the middle section where pretty much everyone identifies the same problem.  What do you all think?
The diagram’s creator says:

Yeah, I’m oversimplifying, but only a little. The greatest threat to our  economy is neither corporations nor the government. The greatest threat  to our economy is both of them working together. There are currently two sizable coalitions of angry citizens that are almost on the same page about that, and they’re too busy insulting each other to notice.

Your thoughts?
birdmechanical answered your question: I keep seeing this floating around Facebook,…
I think if you remove the interaction of government with  corporations, that just ends up with even more powerful corporations..
Ok, but then tell me this:  In what sense do they have power, and how do they enforce it without the strong arm of the law backing them up, the deep pockets of the public treasury funding their projects, the wars creating a lucrative market of destruction, laws which don’t protect private property enough to allow prosecution for destruction of the environment, and the legislatures regulating their smaller competitors out of business?
Also, how do you account for the economy-wrecking business decisions — the easy lending policies that produced the housing bubble, for instance — which occurred at the encouragement of the government and with the government’s assurance that tax dollars would make any large enough venture “too big to fail”?  What the banks did was wrong, absolutely, but they acted with the direction and backing of the government, specifically the Fed.

I keep seeing this floating around Facebook, coupled with the recommendation that we get to work on the middle section where pretty much everyone identifies the same problem.  What do you all think?

The diagram’s creator says:

Yeah, I’m oversimplifying, but only a little. The greatest threat to our economy is neither corporations nor the government. The greatest threat to our economy is both of them working together. There are currently two sizable coalitions of angry citizens that are almost on the same page about that, and they’re too busy insulting each other to notice.

Your thoughts?

birdmechanical answered your question: I keep seeing this floating around Facebook,…

I think if you remove the interaction of government with corporations, that just ends up with even more powerful corporations..

Ok, but then tell me this:  In what sense do they have power, and how do they enforce it without the strong arm of the law backing them up, the deep pockets of the public treasury funding their projects, the wars creating a lucrative market of destruction, laws which don’t protect private property enough to allow prosecution for destruction of the environment, and the legislatures regulating their smaller competitors out of business?

Also, how do you account for the economy-wrecking business decisions — the easy lending policies that produced the housing bubble, for instance — which occurred at the encouragement of the government and with the government’s assurance that tax dollars would make any large enough venture “too big to fail”?  What the banks did was wrong, absolutely, but they acted with the direction and backing of the government, specifically the Fed.

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  6. darkbrownwaffles answered: If what the banks did was wrong, why only recommend dealing with that the government did?
  7. totalmente-desastrada answered: No
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    Yeah, I’m oversimplifying,...little. The greatest threat
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    THIS^ Everybody who wants serious change should consider the above.
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    I’m for Occupy, but many of us subscribe to that AND the belief that the government also has too much power, and we see...
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  28. sonictravis answered: I think this diagram is mostly correct, but most of the OWS-ers aren’t informed enough to fit into the center ring.
  29. 50statepress answered: The biggest threat to overly-powerful govts and corps is individuals effectively enforcing civil rights and property rights - rule of law.
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  32. birdmechanical answered: I think if you remove the interaction of government with corporations, that just ends up with even more powerful corporations..
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  34. derosnecnu answered: I pretty much agree with the creator, though it might’ve been more poignant had he been that clear on the actual diagram…
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    It’s pretty true as far as...see. Some of those large corporations get so many...
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  38. imall4frogs answered: The chart is absolutely correct.
  39. disobey answered: The state’s only concern is the perpetuation of its own power. It is the common denominator that is being ignored.
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  42. whenlifegivesyoupeaches said: I just watched “INSIDE MAN” it explains it ! (along with so many other documetries on this matter) SRY not inside man lol,I own that movie LMAO!! INSIDE JOB!!!!
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  44. conza answered: The greatest threat is the state. Remove that & the corporations have no ‘legitimized’ power to enforce the regulations that benefit them.
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  46. selfevidenteconomy answered: They’ll never agree on a solution. The OWS crowd thinks more government can fix it, the Tea Party (should) think less government is the fix.
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  48. whenlifegivesyoupeaches answered: I just watched “INSIDE MAN” it explains it ! (along with so many other documetries on this matter)
  49. listentothisbeard answered: So the plan is to remove lobbyists and reverse decades of laws?
  50. ducksquaredgoose reblogged this from hipsterlibertarian and added:
    gotta say is: VOTE LIBERTARIAN.
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